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Orthodox scholarship does not rely on the petros/petra grammatical distinction to deny Peter’s foundational role. That argument—claiming petros means “pebble” while petra means “bedrock”—is a Protestant exegetical maneuver foreign to Greek patristic exegesis and now thoroughly discredited by lexicography. We agree with Cullmann’s linguistic judgment: the Aramaic Kepha/kepha makes the identification unmistakable, and the Greek gender variation is purely grammatical. Christ does call Peter “Rock” and does build His Church on this rock. The Orthodox position is not and has never been that Peter is not the rock. The question—the only question that matters—is what makes Peter the rock, what this rock-foundation signifies ecclesiologically, and what kind of authority it entails.

John Meyendorff, in his seminal essay “St. Peter in Byzantine Theology” (The Primacy of Peter, SVS Press, 1992), traces the dominant patristic reading back to Origen of Alexandria. Origen, commenting on Matthew 16:18, wrote: “If we too have said like Peter, ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,’ not as if flesh and blood had revealed it unto us, but by the light from the Father in heaven having shone in our heart, we become a Peter.” Meyendorff explains: “When Origen is commenting directly on Matthew 16:18, he carefully puts aside any interpretation of the passage that would make Peter anything other than what every Christian should be.” Peter is the rock instrumentally, through his confession of faith: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus blesses Peter not for his person or office abstracted from faith, but precisely because “flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in heaven.” Peter becomes petra by expressing—by embodying—the apostolic faith given by divine revelation. The rock is not Peter’s person divorced from his confession, nor his confession divorced from his person, but the confessing apostle as paradigmatic icon of what the Church is built upon: faith in Christ revealed by the Father.

This reading finds overwhelming patristic support. Origen taught it. Chrysostom taught it. Hilary taught it. Cyril of Alexandria, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Theodoret of Cyrus all interpret the rock as Peter’s faith or Christ Himself (confessed by Peter), not Peter’s person as institutionally separable from that faith. Even Augustine, in his mature reflection, wrote: “I said about the Apostle Peter: ‘On him as on a rock the Church was built.’ But I know that very frequently at a later time, I so explained what the Lord said… that it be understood as built upon Him whom Peter confessed. For, ‘Thou art Peter’ and not ‘Thou art the rock’ was said to him. But ‘the rock was Christ,’ in confessing whom, as also the whole Church confesses Him, Simon was called Peter” (Retractiones I.21). Augustine left the reader to choose, but his later preference clearly favored the Christological reading.

The distinctively Orthodox contribution is the ecclesiological concept of Peter as icon of the episcopate. This reading, rooted in Cyprian of Carthage’s De Unitate Ecclesiae and developed across Byzantine theology, holds that Peter represents what every bishop is called to be. Cyprian wrote that Christ gave the keys to Peter “that He might set forth unity” by beginning from one—but then “assigned like power to all the apostles” after the resurrection (John 20:21-23). Critically, Cyprian applied Matthew 16 to every bishop: “The episcopate is one, each part of which is held by each one for the whole.” The cathedra Petri—the chair of Peter—belongs to every bishop who maintains the apostolic faith. As Meyendorff explains: “The early Christian concept, best expressed by Cyprian of Carthage, according to which the ‘see of Peter’ belongs, in each local church, to the bishop, remains the longstanding and obvious pattern.”

Nicolas Afanasiev (1893-1966), the most influential Orthodox ecclesiologist of the 20th century, developed this into a comprehensive Eucharistic ecclesiology. Afanasiev argued that each local church, gathered around its bishop and celebrating the Eucharist, possesses the Church’s full catholicity. There is no “incomplete” or “partial” Church that needs completion through submission to a universal juridical head. Rome certainly exercised a primacy—a primacy of agapē (love), drawing on Ignatius of Antioch’s greeting to “the church which presides in love.” But this was not a primacy of jurisdiction or coercive power. As Alexander Schmemann, Afanasiev’s student, formulated the crucial concession: “An objective study of the canonical tradition cannot fail to establish beyond any doubt that the Church had also known a universal primacy. The ecclesiological error of Rome lies not in the affirmation of her universal primacy. Rather, the error lies in her identification of this primacy with ‘supreme power.’” Primacy exists. It is not monarchical jurisdiction.

The patristic witness is not monolithic, but its dominant trajectory clearly resists the later papal interpretation. When Fathers identify Peter as the rock, they almost universally explain this with reference to his faith, his confession, or his representative status. They do not derive from Matthew 16 the conclusion that Peter’s successors in one particular see possess jurisdictional authority over all other bishops. Cyprian cited Matthew 16 frequently—and used it to defend every bishop’s authority in his own church against outside interference, including Roman interference. When Pope Stephen tried to impose Roman custom on African churches regarding heretical baptism, Cyprian rebuked him sharply, declaring that no bishop has the right to impose his will on others: “For neither does any of us set himself up as a bishop of bishops.”

Irenaeus called Rome “the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church” and said it was necessary for the faithful to “agree with” this church—but when Pope Victor I attempted to excommunicate the Asian churches over the date of Easter (c. 190), Irenaeus intervened. Eusebius records that while multiple bishops sent letters “sharply rebuking Victor,” Irenaeus specifically “fittingly admonishes Victor that he should not cut off whole churches of God which observed the tradition of an ancient custom.” Eusebius concludes: “Thus Irenaeus, who truly was well named [= ‘peace’], became a peacemaker, exhorting and negotiating in behalf of the peace of the churches.” Significantly, Irenaeus did not deny Victor’s authority to excommunicate—he appealed for pastoral wisdom in exercising it. He did not “side with the Asians” on the calendar question (he agreed with Rome’s Sunday observance) but pleaded that diversity in this disciplinary matter should be tolerated, as previous Roman bishops had done. The episode shows limits to Rome’s effective power when other bishops refused cooperation—but no bishop challenged Victor’s claimed jurisdiction itself.

The promise that “the gates of hell shall not prevail” against the Church is made to the Church as Christ’s body, not to one episcopal office within it. The Church’s indefectibility—its preservation in truth—subsists in the whole Church: in the collegiality of bishops united in apostolic faith, in the reception of ecumenical councils by the whole people of God, and in the sensus fidelium—the living faith of the faithful guided by the Holy Spirit. Councils can err when they deviate from the apostolic deposit. Individual bishops can fall into heresy (as Nestorius of Constantinople and Honorius of Rome both did, condemned by ecumenical councils). But the Church universal, remaining in communion and guided by the Spirit, cannot be conquered by the gates of hell. This is where indefectibility resides—not in one man, however holy, but in the corporate body of Christ when it acts in fullness and unity.

Peter holds a real primacy as first among the apostles. This the Orthodox Church has never denied. He is prōtos—first. Among equals, one is first. But being first among equals is categorically different from being monarch over subjects. The later papal claims—universal ordinary jurisdiction, the power to depose bishops, the authority to define dogma unilaterally—find no support in Matthew 16, no support in the patristic interpretation of Matthew 16, and no support in the actual exercise of Roman authority before the high medieval period. The rock Christ builds on is the apostolic faith confessed by Peter and maintained by the apostolic college and their episcopal successors in each generation. This foundation the gates of hell cannot prevail against.

The Orthodox reading begins by acknowledging what the Catholic reading sometimes obscures: this text is extraordinarily difficult. The Greek original is lost. The Latin translation contains ambiguous terminology. Patristic scholars have debated its meaning for centuries without consensus. To claim this passage as definitive proof of papal jurisdiction—as Vatican I did—is to build dogma on linguistic quicksand. The passage can support a primacy of honor and reliable witness; it cannot bear the weight of universal ordinary jurisdiction.

The translation of potentiorem principalitatem is not a minor scholarly quibble—it determines the entire argument. Dominic Unger’s claim that principalitas always means “authority” in Irenaeus’s translator has been challenged by the critical edition of Rousseau and Doutreleau, who argue the underlying Greek was hikanōteran archēn—”more excellent origin.” The word archē fundamentally means “beginning,” and when applied to churches, naturally signifies apostolic foundation, not juridical power. Rome’s archē is “more excellent” because it was founded by both Peter and Paul, the two greatest apostles.

The Catholic argument rests heavily on the claim that necesse est (“it is necessary”) implies obligation—churches have a duty to agree with Rome, therefore Rome must possess jurisdiction to command that agreement. But this reads later juridical categories back into a text that predates them. In context, necesse est expresses logical or practical necessity: “Because Rome is so well-known and publicly accessible, it is necessary [i.e., sufficient, expedient] to consult Rome to refute the Gnostics.” The necessity is rhetorical, not juridical. Irenaeus is saying: “If you want a quick way to verify apostolic tradition without listing every church’s succession, Rome will do.” This is a statement about Rome’s usefulness as a witness, not about its authority to command.

Similarly, convenire need not mean “submit to” or “be subordinate to.” The verb can simply mean “come together with,” “agree with,” or “be in harmony with.” When Irenaeus says all churches must convenire with Rome, he means they share the same apostolic faith—they are in agreement because all possess the same deposit. This is communion, not subordination. The fact that churches “everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition” in Rome (Latin: in qua semper ab his qui sunt undique conservata est ea quae est ab apostolis traditio) can be read as: “in which [church] the tradition from the apostles has always been preserved by those from everywhere”—meaning Rome’s community includes believers from all over the empire who bring and confirm the universal tradition. Rome is a convergence point, not a command center.

The Catholic reading claims Irenaeus uses Rome as “the standard by which other churches verify their apostolic fidelity.” But this overstates the case. Irenaeus also lists the episcopal succession of Smyrna (through Polycarp, a disciple of John the Apostle) and mentions Ephesus as another apostolic church. He does not say these successions are dependent on Rome or must be verified by Rome. He says tracing any apostolic succession refutes the Gnostics—Rome is merely the most convenient example because it is universally known. Convenience and prominence are not the same as supremacy.

Furthermore, Irenaeus’s argument cuts against the later papal claim. If Rome’s authority rested on Petrine jurisdiction transferred to Roman bishops as such, why appeal to the succession list at all? Why not simply say, “The Bishop of Rome holds Peter’s keys and therefore speaks with Christ’s authority”? Instead, Irenaeus appeals to the public, verifiable record of episcopal succession—an argument that works equally well for any apostolic see. The logic is: “Here is the list of bishops in an unbroken line from the apostles; this demonstrates continuity of teaching.” That logic applies to Antioch, Jerusalem, Alexandria, and Ephesus just as much as to Rome. Rome’s usefulness in Irenaeus’s polemic is accidental (it happens to be widely known), not essential (it alone possesses binding authority).

The chronological argument—that Irenaeus wrote within a century of the apostles, so his testimony proves early belief in papal primacy—works both ways. If Irenaeus truly believed Rome possessed universal ordinary jurisdiction, why does he never say this clearly? Why not write: “The Bishop of Rome, as Peter’s successor, has authority over all bishops”? Why resort to opaque phrases about potentiorem principalitatem and convenire that scholars still debate? The ambiguity itself suggests that whatever special regard Irenaeus had for Rome, it was not the fully developed papal theory of later centuries.

The Orthodox reading holds that Irenaeus testifies to Rome’s primacy of honor—a real, meaningful, and ancient primacy, but not a juridical one. Rome was primus inter pares, first among equals, honored for its dual apostolic foundation, its size, its centrality in the empire, and its reliable preservation of apostolic tradition. Other churches naturally looked to Rome as a reference point, agreed with Rome when Rome taught truly, and consulted Rome when disputes arose. But this is conciliar primacy—a primacy exercised in communion with other bishops, subject to fraternal correction when Rome’s exercise of authority seemed imprudent (as Irenaeus counseled Victor regarding the Quartodecimans), and dependent on Rome’s faithfulness to the apostolic deposit (not an inherent charism of office).

The passage does not say: “Rome judges all churches; no church judges Rome.” It does not say: “The Bishop of Rome can impose his will on other bishops.” It does not say: “Rome’s teaching binds all churches regardless of conciliar reception.” These are the claims of papal jurisdiction as defined at Vatican I. They are not in Irenaeus, even by the most generous Catholic reading. What is in Irenaeus is respect for Rome as an especially reliable apostolic witness. The Orthodox Church has never denied this. What it denies is the transformation of that historical respect into a dogma of universal jurisdiction—a transformation the text itself does not support.

Clement’s letter to Corinth is a powerful witness to early Christian ecclesiology—but it witnesses to conciliar primacy, not juridical monarchy. The letter must be read in its historical context: Corinth was in schism, the presbyters had been unjustly deposed, and the community needed authoritative guidance from a respected apostolic church. Rome provided that guidance—as any senior apostolic see might have done—but the letter’s authority rested on its persuasiveness and the Corinthians’ reception, not on Rome’s supposed legal power to command obedience.

The Catholic reading emphasizes Clement’s strong language: “disobey the words which have been spoken by Him through us” and “transgression and no small danger.” But strong moral exhortation is not the same as juridical command. Clement is warning the Corinthians of the spiritual consequences of remaining in schism—consequences that flow from the nature of sin itself, not from Rome’s power to impose canonical penalties. When Paul warned the Corinthians that unworthy reception of the Eucharist brings “judgment” (1 Cor 11:29), he was not claiming jurisdiction over them—he was teaching spiritual truth. Clement does the same.

The claim that Clement writes “through the Holy Spirit” does not establish jurisdictional primacy. Every bishop who teaches faithfully can claim Spirit-guidance—it is the promise Christ makes to the Church (John 16:13). When Ignatius of Antioch wrote his letters (c. 110 AD), he also spoke with apostolic authority and Spirit-guided conviction, yet no one argues Antioch had universal jurisdiction. Spiritual authority and juridical authority are distinct categories. Clement exercises the former; the Catholic position claims the latter.

Why did Corinth turn to Rome specifically? The Orthodox answer is straightforward: Rome was the most prestigious apostolic church in the West, founded by both Peter and Paul, located in the capital of the empire, and known for preserving apostolic tradition faithfully. Respect and consultation are not the same as submission to jurisdiction. When a troubled community seeks counsel from an elder, respected church, they are practicing conciliar catholicity—the mutual support and accountability of the universal Church. This does not require that the consulted church possess coercive legal power over the consulting church.

The argument that the Corinthians would not have accepted Rome’s intervention unless Rome had jurisdiction inverts the historical logic. Reception creates authority in conciliar ecclesiology. Rome’s letter became authoritative because the Corinthians recognized its wisdom and chose to follow it. Had they rejected it, Clement would have had no recourse. The Catholic position requires that Rome’s authority precedes and causes reception; the Orthodox position holds that reception confirms and actualizes authority. The difference is fundamental.

The Catholic reading makes much of Dionysius of Corinth’s testimony (c. 170) that Clement’s letter was still being read liturgically. But this proves the letter’s respect, not Rome’s jurisdiction. The Corinthian church treasured the letter because it was spiritually edifying, not because Rome had legal power to compel its reading. Many ancient churches read non-canonical texts liturgically (the Didache, the Shepherd of Hermas) without treating them as juridically binding. Liturgical use indicates reverence, not submission to jurisdictional authority.

The claim that “the Apostle John was still alive in Ephesus, yet Corinth wrote to Rome instead” is speculative. We do not know with certainty when John died, nor do we know whether Corinth also consulted Ephesus (most correspondence from this period is lost). More importantly, the argument assumes that apostolic residence equals ecclesial authority—but this contradicts the Catholic position itself. If living apostles determined jurisdictional structure, why would Rome’s authority outlast Peter’s death? The Catholic answer is that Peter’s office continues in his successors. But then the presence of John in Ephesus is irrelevant to Corinth’s decision to consult Rome—they could have valued Rome’s institutional memory without believing Rome possessed jurisdiction.

Francis Sullivan’s observation that “it is clear Clement expects his letter to be taken seriously and acted upon” is true but insufficient for the Catholic argument. Every bishop who writes to another church in schism expects to be taken seriously. When Cyprian wrote to Rome challenging Pope Stephen on the rebaptism controversy (256 AD), he also expected to be taken seriously—and he explicitly rejected Roman jurisdiction over African churches. Expectation of serious reception does not equal claim of juridictional supremacy.

The chronology argument—that this is 96 AD, therefore papal primacy was recognized in the apostolic age—commits a logical fallacy. Early date does not equal jurisdictional content. Rome was already honored in the apostolic age; no one disputes this. The Orthodox Church has always taught that Rome is first among equals, primus inter pares. What the Orthodox deny is that this early honor included the juridical powers claimed at Vatican I: universal ordinary jurisdiction, the right to intervene in any diocese, the power to depose bishops, the authority to define dogma unilaterally. None of these powers appear in 1 Clement.

The letter’s authority is moral and persuasive, grounded in Rome’s apostolic witness and spiritual maturity. Clement argues extensively from Scripture and tradition precisely because he must convince the Corinthians—if he possessed jurisdiction, he could simply command. The fact that he argues shows the limits of his authority. The fact that Corinth accepted his argument shows the respect they had for Rome. But respect is not submission; persuasion is not jurisdiction; conciliar primacy is not papal monarchy. The letter is fully compatible with Orthodox ecclesiology and requires nothing beyond it.

Canon 28 of Chalcedon is one of the most theologically revealing documents in the debate over papal primacy because it shows how the early Church actually understood the basis of ecclesial rank: as a matter of ecclesiastical order, not divine institution. An ecumenical council—the Fourth Ecumenical Council, whose dogmatic authority Catholics fully accept—explicitly states that Rome received its privileges “because it was the imperial city” (dia to basileuein). This is not an Orthodox interpretation; this is the council’s own words. If Rome’s primacy were divinely instituted by Christ, the council’s rationale would be not merely wrong but blasphemous—it would be attributing to human political factors what God Himself established.

The canon “follows in all things the decisions of the holy Fathers” who granted Rome its place of honor for the same reason now applied to Constantinople: imperial dignity. The Catholic objection—that this misstates history because Peter’s choice of Rome preceded Rome’s imperial dominance—misses the point. The council is not claiming Peter chose Rome for political reasons; it is claiming the Church recognized Rome’s ecclesial rank for political reasons. Apostolic foundation may have been a factor (Rome had Peter and Paul), but the council treats political status as the operative principle for granting privileges.

Leo’s rejection of the canon is significant—but not in the way Catholics claim. Leo objected because the canon exposed the political foundation of his claims. If ecclesial rank flows from apostolic succession alone, why were Jerusalem, Antioch, and Alexandria also patriarchates? Why was Rome considered first even though Peter spent more time in Antioch? The answer: pragmatic factors—size, wealth, political importance, reliability—shaped ecclesial structure from the beginning. Canon 28 simply makes explicit what had always been implicit: primacy is functional and contextual, not ontological.

The claim that the canon was “hurried through” when papal legates had left is disputed. The canon was passed in a formal session of the council with 185 bishops present—more than voted on the dogmatic definition itself. The assertion that it lacked proper procedure is a later Catholic narrative designed to invalidate an inconvenient text. Even if the legates had protested (which they did), their protest did not stop the council. This shows that even in 451, Rome could be overruled by conciliar authority.

The Catholic argument that “earlier Fathers never grounded Roman primacy in political status” is selective reading. Ignatius of Antioch called Rome “the church which presides in love,” language of honor, not jurisdiction. Irenaeus’s potentiorem principalitatem is contested in meaning. Cyprian explicitly denied Roman jurisdiction over Africa. The patristic witness is mixed—Rome held primacy of honor and great respect, but the basis of that primacy was never definitively settled until Chalcedon stated it plainly: political and practical factors.

The claim that Canon 28 “contradicts patristic witness” assumes the papal reading of the Fathers is correct. But if the Fathers had believed Rome possessed divinely instituted universal jurisdiction, why did they not object when Chalcedon said otherwise? Leo objected to the canon on grounds of Roman prerogative, not on grounds of heresy or doctrinal error. If the canon had denied a revealed truth about Church structure, Leo should have called the entire council into question. He did not. He accepted Chalcedon’s Christology while rejecting this particular canon—treating it as a disciplinary dispute, not a dogmatic one.

The Catholic claim that “councils can err in disciplinary matters” is a convenient escape hatch invented to dismiss inconvenient canons. By this logic, any council decision Rome dislikes can be labeled “disciplinary error” and ignored. But Canon 28 is not a minor procedural rule—it articulates the principle by which ecclesial structure is organized. If this principle is erroneous, then the entire conciliar process is suspect. Why trust Chalcedon’s Christology if Chalcedon fundamentally misunderstood ecclesiology?

The Orthodox reading is that Canon 28 reveals the truth: primacy is relative, not absolute. Rome held first place because of its unique combination of apostolic foundation (Peter and Paul), imperial location, size, wealth, and early orthodoxy. Constantinople received second place for similar reasons (though lacking apostolic foundation initially, it had imperial dignity, size, and strategic importance). This is conciliar primacy—primacy of honor and coordination within a collegial structure. It is not monarchical jurisdiction, where one bishop possesses inherent authority over all others regardless of context.

The Orthodox position is not that Rome had no primacy—Rome clearly held first place and great respect. The Orthodox position is that this primacy was not jurisdictional and not immutable. Canon 28 proves both points. Constantinople could be elevated “because of” political factors, which means rank is mutable. And the canon speaks of “privileges,” not “jurisdictional powers”—language of honor and prerogatives within a collegial system, not language of monarchical authority.

The fact that Rome rejected the canon and the East received it shows exactly what Orthodox ecclesiology teaches: when East and West disagree on matters of order and discipline, both can maintain their positions without breaking communion. The canon did not become binding in the West; it did become binding in the East. This asymmetry is not a problem—it is how conciliar catholicity functions. Unity in faith (Chalcedon’s Christology) allows diversity in governance. Rome’s attempt to impose its rejection of Canon 28 on the East would have been the real violation—not the East’s faithful reception of a conciliar decree.

An ecumenical council—recognized as such by both East and West—formally anathematized a pope by name: “Honorius, who was some time Pope of Old Rome… we define that there shall be expelled from the holy Church of God and anathematized.” If the papacy possessed the attributes Vatican I later defined—universal ordinary jurisdiction, supreme authority over all bishops and councils, and infallibility when teaching—this condemnation would be canonically impossible. A supreme authority cannot be judged by those subject to it. Yet the Third Council of Constantinople did exactly this, the entire Church received its judgment as orthodox, and subsequent popes ratified it. This historical fact demolishes the Vatican I construction.

The Catholic defense rests on the claim that Honorius never spoke ex cathedra—never invoked “supreme apostolic authority” to “define doctrine for the whole Church.” But this distinction is a post-hoc rationalization invented precisely to save the dogma of infallibility from historical counterexamples like Honorius. The early Church had no concept of ex cathedra vs. non-ex cathedra papal statements. When Honorius wrote to Sergius, Patriarch of Constantinople, on a major doctrinal controversy, in his capacity as Bishop of Rome, addressing a fellow patriarch, that was papal teaching. The Monothelites certainly understood it as authoritative—they cited his letters as proof that Rome supported their position.

The claim that Honorius’s letters were “private correspondence” is absurd. They were official communications from the Pope to a patriarch on a doctrinal controversy that was tearing the Eastern Church apart. Emperor Heraclius explicitly sought papal guidance on the Monothelite question. Sergius wrote to Honorius as pope, asking for authoritative judgment. Honorius responded as pope, endorsing Sergius’s formula. If this is not magisterial teaching, what would be? Must a pope explicitly declare “I am now speaking ex cathedra” for his words to count? The early Church had no such bureaucratic procedure.

The Catholic argument that Honorius “did not define dogma with precision” actually strengthens the Orthodox case. If a pope, when asked to resolve a doctrinal crisis, can write ambiguously or negligently and thereby fail to exercise infallibility, then infallibility is not a reliable safeguard against error. Either the charism operates automatically whenever a pope addresses doctrine (in which case Honorius’s letters should have been protected from error), or it operates only under highly specific conditions that the pope must consciously invoke (in which case it’s a nearly useless charism, since popes can cause massive harm through non-infallible teaching). Either way, the dogma fails.

The Orthodox reading holds that the Honorius case reveals the fundamental flaw in papal infallibility: no human being, however holy or well-positioned, is guaranteed preservation from doctrinal error in their teaching. Councils can err (Robber Council of Ephesus, 449). Individual bishops can err (Nestorius, Honorius). Even patriarchs can err. The Church is preserved in truth not through the infallibility of any single office, but through the conciliar process: bishops gathered in council, receiving the guidance of the Holy Spirit, their decrees tested by reception among the faithful.

The council that condemned Honorius was itself a demonstration of this principle. The bishops gathered, examined the historical record (including Honorius’s letters), deliberated, and judged. They did not defer to Rome’s authority or wait for a pope to pronounce on the matter. They exercised conciliar authority, and when they anathematized Honorius, they showed that councils are supreme over popes in matters of defining doctrine. This is Orthodox ecclesiology: conciliarity, not papalism.

The Catholic claim that “the council did not declare the Roman See heretical, only the man” is a distinction the council itself does not make. The anathema is personal (“Honorius, who was some time Pope”), yes—but it condemns him precisely for what he wrote as pope. His letters were papal letters. His failure was papal failure. You cannot separate the man from the office when the condemnation concerns what he did in the office. If papal teaching can fail so catastrophically that an ecumenical council must anathematize it, then the papacy does not possess the charism of infallibility.